Soto Amicus Stove Without Igniter

I’ve had tons of stoves. Pocket rocket, BRS 3000-T, Soto Micro regulator, Coleman. I like them all but IMO this one has the best balance of everything. I do have to click the starter on mine at least twice, sometimes three times to fire..no big deal to me though. I almost bought this without the starter since I carry a lighter anyway for camp. LOVE how the four legs snap into place, well thought out design and fairly compact. Ive Found the windscreen feature is no gimmick. It does make a difference to the point I didn’t need a windscreen in a light breeze. The biggest thing though is the concave burner seems to focus all the BTUs toward the center of your pot Instead of outward. With my SP700 I boiled 16oz in approx 3.5 min on my last trip. No wind though and 65deg. ... MoreI’ve had tons of stoves. Pocket rocket, BRS 3000-T, Soto Micro regulator, Coleman. I like them all but IMO this one has the best balance of everything. I do have to click the starter on mine at least twice, sometimes three times to fire..no big deal to me though. I almost bought this without the starter since I carry a lighter anyway for camp. LOVE how the four legs snap into place, well thought out design and fairly compact. Ive Found the windscreen feature is no gimmick. It does make a difference to the point I didn’t need a windscreen in a light breeze. The biggest thing though is the concave burner seems to focus all the BTUs toward the center of your pot Instead of outward. With my SP700 I boiled 16oz in approx 3.5 min on my last trip. No wind though and 65deg. Good buy, one and you’re done.

I’ve had this stove out now for a dozen or so days and am really loving it. I’ve gone from old 90’s white gas stoves to an original pocket rocket to a BRS and now the Amicus. While the BRS is incredibly small, light and inexpensive, it’s not confidence inducing and absolutely terrible in windy situation.After all those stoves, the Amicus feels and operates like a Swiss watch. The seal on the canister is precise, the armature locks into place, the valve opens smoothly and the piezo lights reliably. I still keep a back up mini bic in my backpack, but it’s now relegated to my repair/emergency kit. And it’s wind performance really is pretty amazing. It boiled 2 cups of water in my toaks titanium pot in near freezing temps next to a windy lake no problem.The only ... MoreI’ve had this stove out now for a dozen or so days and am really loving it. I’ve gone from old 90’s white gas stoves to an original pocket rocket to a BRS and now the Amicus. While the BRS is incredibly small, light and inexpensive, it’s not confidence inducing and absolutely terrible in windy situation.After all those stoves, the Amicus feels and operates like a Swiss watch. The seal on the canister is precise, the armature locks into place, the valve opens smoothly and the piezo lights reliably. I still keep a back up mini bic in my backpack, but it’s now relegated to my repair/emergency kit. And it’s wind performance really is pretty amazing. It boiled 2 cups of water in my toaks titanium pot in near freezing temps next to a windy lake no problem.The only improvement I would make is to the accuracy of the fuel valve. There’s about a half twist before any fuel flows and I always seem to underestimate having it open enough to light it on the first try. Then I open it a little more and it fires up. I’ll get used to it and it certainly has a nice range after this for simmering or fast boiling.The other consideration is its size, landing squarely between the old and new pocket rockets. And the BRS, of course wins in this category. When carrying the BRS, I can fit a 4oz canister, the stove and a lighter all in a 700ml wide toaks. With the Amicus, the canister has to live outside of the pot. Again, this isn’t really bad vs good. Just have to adjust accordingly.

I'm a little bummed about this stove. On the plus-side it seems generally well made and designed. I like how smart the arm design is, the weight, and the wind resistance. It boils water super quickly.Unfortunately, the valve is not as great as I thought it would be. It operates smoothly, and I love that you can't overtighten it, but I wonder if mine is slightly defective.For one thing, pulling or pushing on the dial causes the flame to increase our decrease, which means there is play in the threading. Even my $13 Monoprice stove doesn't do that (but my cheap Etekcity did).Even worse, when turning the dial, the flame control is inconsistent. If I light the stove at a low setting, let's call it 5% flame, and dial up, it'll go from 5% to 10%, to 15%, back down to ... MoreI'm a little bummed about this stove. On the plus-side it seems generally well made and designed. I like how smart the arm design is, the weight, and the wind resistance. It boils water super quickly.Unfortunately, the valve is not as great as I thought it would be. It operates smoothly, and I love that you can't overtighten it, but I wonder if mine is slightly defective.For one thing, pulling or pushing on the dial causes the flame to increase our decrease, which means there is play in the threading. Even my $13 Monoprice stove doesn't do that (but my cheap Etekcity did).Even worse, when turning the dial, the flame control is inconsistent. If I light the stove at a low setting, let's call it 5% flame, and dial up, it'll go from 5% to 10%, to 15%, back down to 10%, and then continue on up. The same happens in reverse, and I think the same thing happens on the next full turn, but the flame is so high, it's hard to tell. This makes me believe the pin in the valve is misshapen. It isn't a huge deal, as I'm never going to cook at a temp that low, but it is disappointing. All I ever hear is how high quality these stoves are.Also the piezo on this would be great if the contact were 1mm longer. I can always get the stove to light, but it usually takes a few clicks. Weight-wise it does well at 2.77oz/77 grams on my scale, which is less than the 2.9oz advertised.Overall, it's a good stove, but after paying $36 and waiting 3+ weeks to get it I expected a little more.

This little stove has really surprised me.I bought it just to give a try, after having used the MSR PocketRocket 2 for over two years, on an almost daily basis (yeah, I use it at home), and there are a number of things that I like about the Amicus over the PR2, including these two aspects:The pot support legs are closer together, than the PR2, which is really nice for my little MSR 400ml cupIt is better in mild windy conditions. Obviously in any real wind it is next to worthless, like most top-canister stoves, go buy a MSR WindBurner if you are typically in high windy areas. But, the little bowl-like design really does seem to help in day to day non-heavy windy conditions.I bought mine with the Piezo igniter, and, as is typical with all of these stoves with a ... MoreThis little stove has really surprised me.I bought it just to give a try, after having used the MSR PocketRocket 2 for over two years, on an almost daily basis (yeah, I use it at home), and there are a number of things that I like about the Amicus over the PR2, including these two aspects:The pot support legs are closer together, than the PR2, which is really nice for my little MSR 400ml cupIt is better in mild windy conditions. Obviously in any real wind it is next to worthless, like most top-canister stoves, go buy a MSR WindBurner if you are typically in high windy areas. But, the little bowl-like design really does seem to help in day to day non-heavy windy conditions.I bought mine with the Piezo igniter, and, as is typical with all of these stoves with a piezo igniter, it was pretty much dead on arrival. I think it worked maybe three times. I tried bending the wire and all that normal stuff and it was just not going to work. Typical. Should have just gotten the version without the piezo and done the normal bic lighter thing like always.The only thing that kind of annoys me is how tall it is. I sure would like to see them reduce the height of this by about a half inch or more.All in all, one of my best gear purchases this year.

I like the supports. Not that the MSR Pocket Rocket arms are difficult to deploy,but these are easier. Ingenious design.The first thing I tried is placing it laying down in my Snow Peak 600. It fit fine. And a 110g canister fits inverted on top. (This is one thing I missed with the Soto Micro Regulator and Soto Windmaster.The second thing I did was add water, long cook steel cut oats, sugar and powdered milk. I quickly proceeded to scorch it to the bottom of the cup so badly I had to soak it in bleach and scrub it to get it out. Operator error ofcourse, nothing to do with the burner. Just reminded me why I hate trying to cook in thin titanium.The ignitor gives a strong spark each click. But despite the strong spark, it seems to ignite about one out of three ... MoreI like the supports. Not that the MSR Pocket Rocket arms are difficult to deploy,but these are easier. Ingenious design.The first thing I tried is placing it laying down in my Snow Peak 600. It fit fine. And a 110g canister fits inverted on top. (This is one thing I missed with the Soto Micro Regulator and Soto Windmaster.The second thing I did was add water, long cook steel cut oats, sugar and powdered milk. I quickly proceeded to scorch it to the bottom of the cup so badly I had to soak it in bleach and scrub it to get it out. Operator error ofcourse, nothing to do with the burner. Just reminded me why I hate trying to cook in thin titanium.The ignitor gives a strong spark each click. But despite the strong spark, it seems to ignite about one out of three times. (in a sheltered area, my kitchen) So, kind of disappointing since my Micro Regulator, both of the Windmasters I currently own as well as the one I used to have all ignited dang near every time. Not a huge deal though. Doesn't outweigh the benefit of having a slightly shorter burner that's easier to pack in my smaller pots. So... I won't deduct a star, maybe a half star if I could. :)The bag is sized to fit and will keep it clean (lint/debris out of the gas passageway). Or if you happen to have a Pocket Rocket 2 case laying around, it fits just like it was made for it.So yes, a good burner. Especially for the price.I'd like to compare it with the Pocket Rocket Deluxe but for $69.99, I'll pass.

I have used this on a few trips so far. I like the supports. It seems more wind resistant than my other stoves but I haven’t done a side by side comparison. I use a $20 aluminum pot with a heat exchanger and get under 3 minute boil times. I got the one with out the lighter, I carry a fire starter and a lighter so I figured, why? Saves weight and I can light a fire. I haven’t tried to light a bowl with a stove yet but when I do I might change my mind.

I used the SOTO Amicus on the JMT last summer. Overall I was really happy with it. Build quality was excellent and, although I was mainly just boiling water, I appreciate that I could get the flame down to simmer level if I needed to. My only complaint was with the peizo ignition. It failed to spark 15 % of the time, just enough to be annoying. With that said, I still plan on using it for future solo adventures.

I'm a moderately experienced backpacker, somewhat ultralight. I've used Whisperlite, MSR Reactor, a few others. Since I've purchased, I've used the Amicus on solo trips in windy Colorado and sandy Joshua Tree NP. It's really a great stove. Light. Small. Convenient. Sturdy. The ignitor model is definitely worth the extra 1/2 oz for me (stupid easy so others in my party, even kids, can use it). Can simmer pretty well (I use it to cook, not just boil water).

Amazing little stove

After using this stove around 5 times I am extremely pleased with it. The quality is amazing. Good in the wind. Sturdy pot surface due to the 4 legs (instead of the usual 3) meaning it's great with larger pots. Accurate gas switch meaning you can have a really small flame which is good for a simmer. The large burner head allows the heating of the pan more evenly and quickly.Its very small when packed down in its case just be careful not to lose it like I nearly did :)

Very impressive stove

Use the Amicus a few time in various conditions, and I am very impressed with its performance. I use the on a wet windy cliff edge and it boiled about 300ml in 3 minutes (with a titanium cup) witch I was very happy with. It is also incredibly light and compact, fitting in any little spot I can find in my pack. Overall I really like this stove with its small size and Efficiency.