Karu 12 UU-P29400 Outdoor Pizza Oven Hardware/Electronic

We unfortunately could not be more disappointed with the Ooni Fyra. I researched and read several reviews before choosing to purchase this version as opposed to any of the propane options and while there were complaints most of the reviews were positive. We had friends who had the propane version and it worked flawlessly and produced amazing pizzas…I was wrong to assume that with a little practice and research the Fyra would offer the same ease and a great tasting and evenly cooked pizza.There is simply no ease to using this oven unless MAYBE you plan to only make 1-2 pizzas. It is incredibly difficult to keep an even temperature, it burns through the wood pellets much faster than advertised and our chimney flue never stays where it needs to to ensure those ... MoreWe unfortunately could not be more disappointed with the Ooni Fyra. I researched and read several reviews before choosing to purchase this version as opposed to any of the propane options and while there were complaints most of the reviews were positive. We had friends who had the propane version and it worked flawlessly and produced amazing pizzas…I was wrong to assume that with a little practice and research the Fyra would offer the same ease and a great tasting and evenly cooked pizza.There is simply no ease to using this oven unless MAYBE you plan to only make 1-2 pizzas. It is incredibly difficult to keep an even temperature, it burns through the wood pellets much faster than advertised and our chimney flue never stays where it needs to to ensure those temperatures remain even and continuous. It also is a lot messier to clean up as ashes are significant after burning through the pellets. Since making the purchase I have recommended to several friends that they buy the propane versions and those friends have all had rave reviews. If you want true ease and amazing, evenly cooked pizza (especially for a crowd) Ooni is still a great brand we just recommend not going the wood pellet route…we unfortunately are walking away incredibly disappointed and having spent a great deal of money on a product we have given up using after only 2 years.

I love my Fyra 12! It's my first pizza oven and I'm using it quite frequently since it's use to use and the pizzas out of it look and taste amazing! Some reviews I read were recommending gas due to the facility to control the temperature, but pellets are easier than wood to manage and the taste is amazing, you can't get that with gas! On my BBQ grill, I changed from gas to charcoal and then pellets and I'm never going back, so I kind of new the experience already - although the grill needs power and the oven doesn't (however requires more manual control), so on the pizza oven I went straight to pellets. Zero regrets, the Fyra 12 is wonderful! It's a small oven (like any 12 inches pizza oven), what can be great if you have limited space and normally bakes your pizza ... MoreI love my Fyra 12! It's my first pizza oven and I'm using it quite frequently since it's use to use and the pizzas out of it look and taste amazing! Some reviews I read were recommending gas due to the facility to control the temperature, but pellets are easier than wood to manage and the taste is amazing, you can't get that with gas! On my BBQ grill, I changed from gas to charcoal and then pellets and I'm never going back, so I kind of new the experience already - although the grill needs power and the oven doesn't (however requires more manual control), so on the pizza oven I went straight to pellets. Zero regrets, the Fyra 12 is wonderful! It's a small oven (like any 12 inches pizza oven), what can be great if you have limited space and normally bakes your pizza for a small number of people (4 in my family), but for a large gather you might have to wait 10 minutes or so between every couple of pizzas, to allow the oven to reheat. Other than for pizzas, I used my Fyra 22 for steaks once (using the Ooni cast iron skillet) and it works, although I prefer the BBQ grill, with the advantage of using less pellets than the grill (since my one is large) and not requiring power (it was very convenient during a power outage we just had). I also prepared salmon on it (with pesto butter) - just using a disposable aluminum pan - and that turns out so good! Probably worth it to have the Fyra 12 just for that if you're a fan of Salmon or other high temperature baked fishes. The only thing that might be an issue is that in case you're using the oven for several pizzas - more than six - the tray were the pellets burn might become full of ashes turning access for new pellets (that are inserted from the top) to the fire a little difficult. I notice that depends a lot of the pellet you use (but the great news is that you can use different types). In my case, I avoid this issue by beating the back of the tray (without removing it from the oven) with a piece of wood (be gentle to not bend the tray!) for the ashes to settle, what normally solves the problem. Overall, I highly recommend the Fyra 12! It's affordable, beautiful, very sturdy and reliable, simple to use, never run out of gas (I find much easier and safe to have a stock of pellets at home, than a stock of gas bottles), and the best: it makes delicious pizzas and can be used for other foods too (I highly recommend for Salmon!). It's the only pizza oven I have, but I really don't see the need for trying or having a different one!

It definitely takes a lot of getting used to and playing around with make a good pizza. (I've yet to make a GREAT pizza.) I can't seem to get the oven even up to 800 degrees, let alone the 900+ they claim it can get to. I bought the gas burner for this but have yet to try it because I want to perfect the wood burning pizza so we can use this at our beach club (that only allows coal/wood grills). I am a bit disappointed that Ooni then came out with a larger wood burn try just a couple of weeks after I purchased it, obviously recognizing that there is fault with their design that keeps it from getting as hot as they claim. But if you want this larger burn tray, you have to purchase it for $30. I think that is not really fair.Aside from the grill not getting hot ... MoreIt definitely takes a lot of getting used to and playing around with make a good pizza. (I've yet to make a GREAT pizza.) I can't seem to get the oven even up to 800 degrees, let alone the 900+ they claim it can get to. I bought the gas burner for this but have yet to try it because I want to perfect the wood burning pizza so we can use this at our beach club (that only allows coal/wood grills). I am a bit disappointed that Ooni then came out with a larger wood burn try just a couple of weeks after I purchased it, obviously recognizing that there is fault with their design that keeps it from getting as hot as they claim. But if you want this larger burn tray, you have to purchase it for $30. I think that is not really fair.Aside from the grill not getting hot enough, one of the other issues I have is with the launching of the pizza. I have used a bunch of flour but that launch of the first pizza into the oven is always the trickiest and often makes a mess in the oven. I need to try the perforated peel and see if that makes a different. If I had to do it again, I would also buy the 16 inch grill, as the 12 is sort of small.I was also bummed that only a few months after this, Ooni came out with a new version of the karu 12 with the glass door that doesn't come off and a thermometer on the side, two features I really think would help change my mind for this review to at least 4 stars, perhaps even 5. I purchased the thermometer for the oven, but I would've liked to have one on the oven too.